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[Ežiukas]

Prašome balsuokite už jums labiausiai patikusi logo Gegužės 9'ai dienai, kuris bus patalpintas SSC tą dieną

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Please vote for the best banner in your opinion suitable for the May 9th celebration day, the winner would be placed as main banner at SSC on that day

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=468630

[Aug1z]

Rusiškas humoras:

"Is there a place where i can post a banner for eSStonia?"

[Whose Homepage]

Yep! Somebody sure brought some life into that banner contest!

And the Nazi allegations are pitiful.

[Whose Homepage]

O dear, some of those people are truly confused, or they suffer from delusions:

IMO , Victory-day is a holiday of all world, and not just Russia

Sorry, GERR_LIND, but you're totally wrong on that one!

[Whose Homepage]

Hmmm ... there's another weird thing about this banner contest. There's no trace of it in any of the front page European forums: UK, French, Dutch, Polish, Spanish.

Are they not Europeans? Are their scrapers not in Europe? Don't we see many of those forumers in Euroscrapers?

So why wouldn't they anticipate May 9 Victory Day with the same enthusiasm and fervor as the Euroscrapers forumers themselves?

Obviously another lapse of logic on the part of the organizers of the contest.

[John]

Hmmm ... there's another weird thing about this banner contest. There's no trace of it in any of the front page European forums: UK, French, Dutch, Polish, Spanish.

Are they not Europeans? Are their scrapers not in Europe? Don't we see many of those forumers in Euroscrapers?

So why wouldn't they anticipate May 9 Victory Day with the same enthusiasm and fervor as the Euroscrapers forumers themselves?

Obviously another lapse of logic on the part of the organizers of the contest.

I guess that's because it's the "9th of May" Victory day which is only celebrated in Russia and its sattelites. The rest of the world (including the Baltic countries) celebrates it on the 8th of May.

[Ežiukas]

And I proudly announcing that I celebrate it on the 2nd of September

[Siberian]

Sorry, GERR_LIND, but you're totally wrong on that one!

Don't take him so seriously, he's 14 years old...

[Aš]

Don't take him so seriously, he's 14 years old...

And people like he is will create new russia. I'm scared to think about what shell it look like. His opinion represents the most of russians' opinion. And that's the main problem.

[Siberian]

And people like he is will create new russia. I'm scared to think about what shell it look like.

He's not bad, I'm sure he will grow wiser.

His opinion represents the most of russians' opinion.

I don't know the most russian's opinion. I see the discussion only at Internet forums, in daily life I didn't see or heard any discussion on this subject.

[Aš]

He's not bad, I'm sure he will grow wiser.

Believe me, i hope so very much.

I don't know the most russian's opinion. I see the discussion only at Internet forums, in daily life I didn't see or heard any discussion on this subject.

Too bad you don't. But i do. I don't hink that internet can't explain the tendency of the opinion in russia. All i can here from world wide russians (not all of them, but the most of them, i'm talking about tendencys, not about russians as the entire nation, don't forget this) and your media makes me sick. I'm sorry for this word, but it truly does.

[Siberian]

Too bad you don't. But i do.

Really? From where?

All i can here from world wide russians (not all of them, but the most of them, i'm talking about tendencys, not about russians as the entire nation, don't forget this) and your media makes me sick. I'm sorry for this word, but it truly does.

I don't know whom to believe, so I take a neutral position. And just observing.

[Aš]

Really? From where?

I don't hink that internet can't explain the tendency of the opinion in russia. All i can here from world wide russians <...> and your media <...>

Read more carefully. Please.

If you want i can make you yourself give us all a provement of that. All i need is just one simple question.

I could ask you: do you agree that what russians did, was more or less the same crime as nazis? Do you agree that russia taking people to siberia and killing them there have used genocide? Do you agree that to occupie a country is a crime of war which russia have done? That's more than one question and i could give you some more. But all they haveone ansver.

[Siberian]

Read more carefully. Please.

If you want i can make you yourself give us all a provement of that. All i need is just one simple question.

Ah, do you mean all of these internet duscussions? I have seen them. There is no need to show them.

[Aš]

Ah, do you mean all of these internet duscussions? I have seen them. There is no need to show them.

I mean the ansvers you can give me. Will you prove my words? Come on and bring the tendencys out.

I know that what nazis have done is very bad. But now they are apologising (Germany). But you see that what russia has done is also more or less bad as nazis. But the difference is that russians are celebrating now.

Russia has exiled 300000 of Lithuanians. Germany - 80000. I know both facts are bad, no doubt. But you can compare and think who is who. Or maybe both are the same. Maybe you are the same as your most important enemie, but you don't realise that. Because you see everything just from your side. And then some of you shout "eSStonia" think twice, maybe it's ruSSia.

[Siberian]

I could ask you: do you agree that what russians did, was more or less the same crime as nazis?

Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians, Lithuanian... I call them Soviets. Because didn't you deny, that some of your people were the accomplices of the Soviet regime?

Do you agree that russia taking people to siberia and killing them there have used genocide?

Sure I agree.... as taking Russian people to Siberia as well. Those Russian people were the majority in the camps. For the communists weren't a nationality...

Do you agree that to occupie a country is a crime of war which russia have done?

I have no enough objective facts to judge this part of our history. I just know that the crimes should be judged in the times, not know, when everybody who was guilty are dead. My generation hasn't anything in common with this.

That's more than one question and i could give you some more. But all they haveone ansver.

I know what you mean. But the anwers couldn't be so evident...

My opinion. I don't support all of these vandals in Estonia for sure. But Estonian government should be more accurate in the sensitive historical matters, they knew that's really sensitive, anyway they risked.. and now we see the result.

[Siberian]

And then some of you shout "eSStonia" think twice, maybe it's ruSSia.

Actually it was usSSR. Don't mix them.

[Aug1z]

Actually it was usSSR. Don't mix them.

Are you trying to tell us that Russia is not a successor of soviet union and it has nothing to do with it's crimes?

[Aš]

Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians, Lithuanian... I call them Soviets. Because didn't you deny, that some of your people were the accomplices of the Soviet regime?

Controled from moscow, russia, with no choice or too scared to disagree and to be exiled? Yup there was a part of them.

Sure I agree.... as taking Russian people to Siberia as well. Those Russian people were the majority in the camps. For the communists weren't a nationality...

Yes, those who didn't agreed with the idiot of the century - stalin (and should i tell the 2nd and the 3rd nominations?). But does that mean that you can exile Lithuanians too? Does that make this crime no more the crime? Nope.

I have no enough objective facts to judge this part of our history. I just know that the crimes should be judged in the times, not know, when everybody who was guilty are dead. My generation hasn't anything in common with this.

Your generation is celebrating. So that's the common. Your generation is going on the same way (putin). So what i wnat is to make start you thinking.

My opinion. I don't support all of these vandals in Estonia for sure. But Estonian government should be more accurate in the sensitive historical matters, they knew that's really sensitive, anyway they risked.. and now we see the result.

And the vandals. Look, people came saying that Estonia disrespects the monument, but the people themselfs disrespects it more while robbing the markets, fighting etc. Do they really care about the respect? Some of them do, but that's a little part. And by the way Estonia is independant country which can make it's decisions on it's own. No need russia here. The monument was replaced with all the respect which is possible to give.

[Siberian]

Are you trying to tell us that Russia is not a successor of soviet union and it has nothing to do with it's crimes?

Sure Russia is a successor of the USSR. With all of these debts, embassies etc... If you wish Russia will share with some debt with Lithuania? Anyway the crimes did the people not the country and the people are dead already.

Contoled from moscow, russia, with no choice or too scared to disagree and to be exiled? Yup there was part of them.

Everything has a center, what's wonder with this? Even USSR has the center - Moscow...

Yes, hose who didn't agreed with the idiot of the century - stalin. But does that mean that you can exile Lithuanians too? Does that make this crime no more the crime? Nope.

It's a crime, I said it. Look a bit carefully, what I have wrote.

Your generation is celebrating. So that's the common. Your generation is going on the same way (putin).

OMG. That's the victory of liberation our country from the invaders, can't see what's wrong with this. Occupation of your country is another question weakly realted to this.

And the vandals. Look people come saying that Estonia disrespects the monument, but the people themselfs disrespects it more while robbing the markets, fighting etc. Do tehy really care about the respect? Some of them do, but that's a little part. And by the way Estonia is independant country which can make it's desisions on it's own. No need russia here. the monument was replaced with all the respect which is possible to give.

I see you're trying me to explain like I was one of these protesters or vandals. Re-read my post once again.
Cheers.

Enough for today. I will go to sleep.